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		<title>By: Cara Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m absolutely sure that not everyone is ready yet to get clean and sober. People do recovery when they&#039;re ready, and there are different paths. Residential treatment is just one. Homeless friends who got into a housing program and then made a commitment to a 12-step program seem to have had the best success in maintaining recovery.

My understanding of addiction, based on what I&#039;ve learned from friends who are long-timers in AA, is that the underlying emotion with alcoholism is shame. But I imagine that shame does lead to hopelessness for many people.

The problem I see with the lack of treatment here is that when people finally ask for help (and they do, I actually got a text from a friend last night who needs rehab), there is often none immediately available. And too often, we&#039;ve been able to get homeless friends into detox, only to find that there&#039;s no next step. Treatment programs are usually full, so they finish a few days&#039; detox and then go back to the woods, or back under the bridge. That leaves them less likely to try rehab again. And honestly, it&#039;s a big waste of taxpayer dollars. 

We need better solutions. Housing the homeless is the best solution. Then people can do treatment, including 12-step (which is free and effective!) as they&#039;re ready. Housing homeless people is also less expensive to the taxpayer than paying the public costs of homelessness. I know you know all this, Kathy, but hopefully, others are reading these comments, as well.

Thanks for all that you to help the homeless in Greensboro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m absolutely sure that not everyone is ready yet to get clean and sober. People do recovery when they&#8217;re ready, and there are different paths. Residential treatment is just one. Homeless friends who got into a housing program and then made a commitment to a 12-step program seem to have had the best success in maintaining recovery.</p>
<p>My understanding of addiction, based on what I&#8217;ve learned from friends who are long-timers in AA, is that the underlying emotion with alcoholism is shame. But I imagine that shame does lead to hopelessness for many people.</p>
<p>The problem I see with the lack of treatment here is that when people finally ask for help (and they do, I actually got a text from a friend last night who needs rehab), there is often none immediately available. And too often, we&#8217;ve been able to get homeless friends into detox, only to find that there&#8217;s no next step. Treatment programs are usually full, so they finish a few days&#8217; detox and then go back to the woods, or back under the bridge. That leaves them less likely to try rehab again. And honestly, it&#8217;s a big waste of taxpayer dollars. </p>
<p>We need better solutions. Housing the homeless is the best solution. Then people can do treatment, including 12-step (which is free and effective!) as they&#8217;re ready. Housing homeless people is also less expensive to the taxpayer than paying the public costs of homelessness. I know you know all this, Kathy, but hopefully, others are reading these comments, as well.</p>
<p>Thanks for all that you to help the homeless in Greensboro.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Vohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Vohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele -

You make some good points.  There is a lack of residential facilities for both substance abuse and mental illness.  It is hard to see the unmedicated schizophrenics wander about and know that if only there were a place they could stay that would help them with counseling and medication then they could rejoin and re-engage.

I&#039;m not so sure that everyone who drinks to be drunk wants to get into rehab.  Some of the folks I have met have been quite resistant to the idea (but I think it is more of a rejection of &quot;being told what to do&quot; in rehab than to rehab itself).  So I don&#039;t know that the &quot;drunk&quot; problem would evaporate with more available rehab slots (but it would improve).  

My opinion is that the &quot;drunk&quot; problem is more related to hopelessness than anything else.  That, and a desire to not have to deal with whatever is causing the hopelessness.

I so wish I knew how to put hope in a bottle and pass it out.  That would be worth a hundred rehab slots.

Great story.  Well written.  Thanks so much for sharing it.

Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele -</p>
<p>You make some good points.  There is a lack of residential facilities for both substance abuse and mental illness.  It is hard to see the unmedicated schizophrenics wander about and know that if only there were a place they could stay that would help them with counseling and medication then they could rejoin and re-engage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that everyone who drinks to be drunk wants to get into rehab.  Some of the folks I have met have been quite resistant to the idea (but I think it is more of a rejection of &#8220;being told what to do&#8221; in rehab than to rehab itself).  So I don&#8217;t know that the &#8220;drunk&#8221; problem would evaporate with more available rehab slots (but it would improve).  </p>
<p>My opinion is that the &#8220;drunk&#8221; problem is more related to hopelessness than anything else.  That, and a desire to not have to deal with whatever is causing the hopelessness.</p>
<p>I so wish I knew how to put hope in a bottle and pass it out.  That would be worth a hundred rehab slots.</p>
<p>Great story.  Well written.  Thanks so much for sharing it.</p>
<p>Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: Cara Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Joe. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Joe. <img src='http://chosenfast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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