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		<title>By: Cara Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m absolutely sure that not everyone is ready yet to get clean and sober. People do recovery when they&#039;re ready, and there are different paths. Residential treatment is just one. Homeless friends who got into a housing program and then made a commitment to a 12-step program seem to have had the best success in maintaining recovery.

My understanding of addiction, based on what I&#039;ve learned from friends who are long-timers in AA, is that the underlying emotion with alcoholism is shame. But I imagine that shame does lead to hopelessness for many people.

The problem I see with the lack of treatment here is that when people finally ask for help (and they do, I actually got a text from a friend last night who needs rehab), there is often none immediately available. And too often, we&#039;ve been able to get homeless friends into detox, only to find that there&#039;s no next step. Treatment programs are usually full, so they finish a few days&#039; detox and then go back to the woods, or back under the bridge. That leaves them less likely to try rehab again. And honestly, it&#039;s a big waste of taxpayer dollars. 

We need better solutions. Housing the homeless is the best solution. Then people can do treatment, including 12-step (which is free and effective!) as they&#039;re ready. Housing homeless people is also less expensive to the taxpayer than paying the public costs of homelessness. I know you know all this, Kathy, but hopefully, others are reading these comments, as well.

Thanks for all that you to help the homeless in Greensboro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m absolutely sure that not everyone is ready yet to get clean and sober. People do recovery when they&#8217;re ready, and there are different paths. Residential treatment is just one. Homeless friends who got into a housing program and then made a commitment to a 12-step program seem to have had the best success in maintaining recovery.</p>
<p>My understanding of addiction, based on what I&#8217;ve learned from friends who are long-timers in AA, is that the underlying emotion with alcoholism is shame. But I imagine that shame does lead to hopelessness for many people.</p>
<p>The problem I see with the lack of treatment here is that when people finally ask for help (and they do, I actually got a text from a friend last night who needs rehab), there is often none immediately available. And too often, we&#8217;ve been able to get homeless friends into detox, only to find that there&#8217;s no next step. Treatment programs are usually full, so they finish a few days&#8217; detox and then go back to the woods, or back under the bridge. That leaves them less likely to try rehab again. And honestly, it&#8217;s a big waste of taxpayer dollars. </p>
<p>We need better solutions. Housing the homeless is the best solution. Then people can do treatment, including 12-step (which is free and effective!) as they&#8217;re ready. Housing homeless people is also less expensive to the taxpayer than paying the public costs of homelessness. I know you know all this, Kathy, but hopefully, others are reading these comments, as well.</p>
<p>Thanks for all that you to help the homeless in Greensboro.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Vohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Vohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele -

You make some good points.  There is a lack of residential facilities for both substance abuse and mental illness.  It is hard to see the unmedicated schizophrenics wander about and know that if only there were a place they could stay that would help them with counseling and medication then they could rejoin and re-engage.

I&#039;m not so sure that everyone who drinks to be drunk wants to get into rehab.  Some of the folks I have met have been quite resistant to the idea (but I think it is more of a rejection of &quot;being told what to do&quot; in rehab than to rehab itself).  So I don&#039;t know that the &quot;drunk&quot; problem would evaporate with more available rehab slots (but it would improve).  

My opinion is that the &quot;drunk&quot; problem is more related to hopelessness than anything else.  That, and a desire to not have to deal with whatever is causing the hopelessness.

I so wish I knew how to put hope in a bottle and pass it out.  That would be worth a hundred rehab slots.

Great story.  Well written.  Thanks so much for sharing it.

Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele -</p>
<p>You make some good points.  There is a lack of residential facilities for both substance abuse and mental illness.  It is hard to see the unmedicated schizophrenics wander about and know that if only there were a place they could stay that would help them with counseling and medication then they could rejoin and re-engage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that everyone who drinks to be drunk wants to get into rehab.  Some of the folks I have met have been quite resistant to the idea (but I think it is more of a rejection of &#8220;being told what to do&#8221; in rehab than to rehab itself).  So I don&#8217;t know that the &#8220;drunk&#8221; problem would evaporate with more available rehab slots (but it would improve).  </p>
<p>My opinion is that the &#8220;drunk&#8221; problem is more related to hopelessness than anything else.  That, and a desire to not have to deal with whatever is causing the hopelessness.</p>
<p>I so wish I knew how to put hope in a bottle and pass it out.  That would be worth a hundred rehab slots.</p>
<p>Great story.  Well written.  Thanks so much for sharing it.</p>
<p>Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: Cara Michele</title>
		<link>http://chosenfast.com/2009/11/01/when-theres-nowhere-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-157047</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Joe. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Joe. <img src='http://chosenfast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Guarino</title>
		<link>http://chosenfast.com/2009/11/01/when-theres-nowhere-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-157046</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Guarino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely written, Michele.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely written, Michele.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara Michele</title>
		<link>http://chosenfast.com/2009/11/01/when-theres-nowhere-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-157045</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Ronny, thank you so much! I&#039;m honored to have been asked to write the article and to be able to share some of my homeless friends&#039; perspectives.

I am grateful and humbled that you see Jesus at work in the way that I live my life. Anything good that you see in me is from the Lord, and I&#039;m thankful for it. As for the not-so-great stuff, that&#039;s 100% me. But God and I continue working on those parts of my life. I want to be like Jesus. I&#039;m not there yet (or even close, haha!), but because of Him, I&#039;m not who I used to be either. Thank you, Lord!! ;)

Thanks for reminding me to get re-linked at Ben&#039;s. Sometimes it goes a little crazy over there and I have to temporarily ban myself. :)

I love you, too, and words cannot express how grateful I am for your prayers. People often ask, &quot;How can I help?,&quot; and although there are many material ways to do that, the most important thing that anyone can do to help our ministry is to PRAY!  Thank you, thank you, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Ronny, thank you so much! I&#8217;m honored to have been asked to write the article and to be able to share some of my homeless friends&#8217; perspectives.</p>
<p>I am grateful and humbled that you see Jesus at work in the way that I live my life. Anything good that you see in me is from the Lord, and I&#8217;m thankful for it. As for the not-so-great stuff, that&#8217;s 100% me. But God and I continue working on those parts of my life. I want to be like Jesus. I&#8217;m not there yet (or even close, haha!), but because of Him, I&#8217;m not who I used to be either. Thank you, Lord!! <img src='http://chosenfast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for reminding me to get re-linked at Ben&#8217;s. Sometimes it goes a little crazy over there and I have to temporarily ban myself. <img src='http://chosenfast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I love you, too, and words cannot express how grateful I am for your prayers. People often ask, &#8220;How can I help?,&#8221; and although there are many material ways to do that, the most important thing that anyone can do to help our ministry is to PRAY!  Thank you, thank you, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronny</title>
		<link>http://chosenfast.com/2009/11/01/when-theres-nowhere-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-157042</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an insightful and different article on the homeless and needful folks in our neighborhood.
I started reading your blog over a year ago when
I saw its listing on Ben Holder&#039;s web.  Since then I&#039;ve told other people about your site and
the work you do.  So often my wife and I have
discussed people who most closely resemble
Jesus with their lifestyle and you are among the few who live and do the things Jesus taught.
I love you and the work you do and pray for you
Thanks for all you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an insightful and different article on the homeless and needful folks in our neighborhood.<br />
I started reading your blog over a year ago when<br />
I saw its listing on Ben Holder&#8217;s web.  Since then I&#8217;ve told other people about your site and<br />
the work you do.  So often my wife and I have<br />
discussed people who most closely resemble<br />
Jesus with their lifestyle and you are among the few who live and do the things Jesus taught.<br />
I love you and the work you do and pray for you<br />
Thanks for all you do.</p>
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